How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Would Donald Trump's reelection make the world more dangerous?

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

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Now here in this verse

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

How does it feel to be in a marriage without any love?

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Is the Shia claim true that Imam Ali was born inside the Kaaba?

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Why does he text me first but when I never text first he gets mad?

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

What specific economic and social impacts would result if all climate change policies and regulations were immediately repealed worldwide?

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

What caused North Korea to go poor when at first it was rich?

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

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I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

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How could Trump, with his deplorable garbage supporters, manage to win an election?

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Why are many women so drawn or attracted to men that have been or are currently in prison and men that are involved in street life/illegal activities?

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

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Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Why do some people feel down in summer, specifically in July and August? What could be the reasons behind this feeling of sadness during those months only?

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Kabir (a weaver)

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यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

CONCLUSION:

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Sain (a barber)

NOW…

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

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Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

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I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

then who is there to know what happens without?

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥